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Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 08:37 PM
Pac's Deeper breathing...


"Today I was listening to better dayz in the car and as soon as I was listening to "Mama's Just A Little Girl " I noticed how when Pac finish a line he gasp for air longer than any other song on the album like he have trouble breathing and he needs to take a lot of air in. I check all the other songs from the album and it seems only "Mama's Just A Little Girl" you hear him taking in more air and in "Fair XChange" you hear it too but not like "Mama's Just A Little Girl".. I never heard him doing that in any other songs that were released so I don't know what all this about... Maybe y'all can try to bring a meaning to it. Maybe he did lived, got one of his lungs remove, made "Mama's Just A Little Girl" and thats why he sounds like that. Well if you understand what I'm trying to say ." -- Insane


Also, click on this link, and listen to how much air he gasps for when he is trying to scream "westside" in Still Ballin (from BD), then listen for about 2 more seconds, and listen to how much air he screams for westside from hit em up..

There is a huge difference.

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Sources: CEOInsane@musicfantalk, Makaveli7@hitemup



SIDE EFFECST OF LUNG REMOVAL


What are the side effects of the treatments?

Certain side effects have been associated with different types of treatments. Each patient's response to treatment will be different but there are some common effects.

Possible Side Effects from Surgical Treatment

(Breathing exercises can help eliminate side effects and facilitate recovery)

* Difficulty breathing deeply
* Difficulty turning over
* Pain and weakness in chest and arms
* Shortness of breath


This is about removal of lung cancer, but from what I understand this is referring [Above] to the removal of an entire lung.
Source: http://www.ricancercouncil.org/facts/lungtreat.php



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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 09:04 PM
i have 2 agree that he certainly does gasp 4 air more than in his old songs, i mean what other reason can there b, it seems 2 much of a coincidence that he has a lung removed then his songs hearing him gasping 4 more air, why would he not sound like this pre-96.not just the songs u mentioned i think he takes more deep breaths all through better dayz including thug mansion.also i think his voice sounds older in better dayz but then again it could just b me hearing what i belive.

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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 09:21 PM
Analyzing his breathing patterns? granted, he does take a longer breath..but i think looking at the way he breaths is a little over the top....

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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 09:36 PM
Maybe...
I think analyzing his breathing is 'better' than looking at his lyrics, because at least this is undeniable.

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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 09:43 PM
i dont c anything wrong with analysing his breathing like logical sed its more reliable than the fairytale 7 theory, this forum is 4 discussing weather or not pac is alive and if his breathing can help us gain a better understanding of this then i cant c a problem.

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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 10:20 PM
I never registered before the forum re-design, just read the posts...

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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 10:27 PM
Oh Okay, I thought there was somone with the same name [or somthing similar].
Well, Welcome

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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 10:45 PM
Thanks, this is a better start than before

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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 11:36 PM
analyzin his breathing...ahaha...the weed, the drinkin, his mood...it all changes the way he speaks...next thing u kno someone is gonna bring up the idea of him playin basketball before he went to record idea from the old forum.

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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 11:48 PM
Yup, very true.

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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 20 Dec 2002 01:09 AM
i noticed it mostly on tha intro to thugz mansion he breathes really deep and there should be know reason for that. he is just talking

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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 20 Dec 2002 01:36 AM
hmmm, but if it was a problem he was having, why dont you hear it in the Makaveli: Dk7, aren't they all from the same era (couple months). And breathing problems don't all of a sudden happen, if the cause is Smoking...its progressive, and you would hear it through out the era.

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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 20 Dec 2002 01:52 AM
I dont think there is medicine for enphisemia (spl), and you would progressivly notice the deeper and deeper breaths.

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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 20 Dec 2002 03:21 AM
I feel ya. It could be because of the 1-2 packs of Newports he smoked everyday, + all that weed. Anyone seen "Thug Angel"? U can download it at Kazaa or I-mesh.

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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 20 Dec 2002 04:23 AM
Yes this is all true, but it does not just one day you are breating deeper, it is progressive and you would be able to notice his breathing decline...but you really don't you just all of a sudden hear him breathing deeper.


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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 20 Dec 2002 04:25 AM
so if they all came from the same era, there would b a few songs on DKT7 and on better dayz were his voice is different but thats not the case none of the songs on DKT7 hear him gasping 4 air, this seems very odd, why just on better dayz, this means that he must b alive now producing new tracks.also it was sed that the difference varied depending on the day or if he took medicine 4 his throat,i cant belive that pac was a perfectionist, if his throat was sore 1 day and better another like sum 1 sed then he would just wait till his throat was better, 2 produce the songs like thug mansion rather than do them with a sore throat and they not b as gud, or maybe he recently produced them 4 better dayz and the difference in voice cannot be helped, after having a lung removed.

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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 21 Dec 2002 06:32 AM
dam
ive listened to the whole of better dayz
and ive realized he does gasp for air alot
its making me believe hes alive
now
anyways hes struggling with hes air
i mean with one lung
u can her him in thugz mansion
and mamas just a little girl

any way here a clue in the song getto star

Walkin thru tha cemetary, talkin to my homies that was buried,
say my enemies wanna see me dead I ain't worried, forgive me
please give me shelter calm my fears,
lifted my head from my hand that'll ball me tears,
I see bodies gettin splashed with acid,
2 shots ring from the plasted guy wrapped in plastic,
bury tha bastard, time to notify,
his family...shiet..
ain't nothin left to be identify,
evacuate the crime scene fast, why?
i heard the feds have a warrent fo my ass, fly
i won't touch down till i see tijauna,
setup a shop sellin them crooked cops marijuana,
label me a success,i made tha switch, retired from the life that neva gave me shit,
but cash that i couldn't spend, countless cars and adict fo a wife, tmy life as a ghetto star
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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 21 Dec 2002 09:55 AM
that song has been out forever though, and he is talkin about a murder...not his

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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 22 Dec 2002 06:05 AM
NO HE ISNT
hes talking bout hes
how he go out the lime light
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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 25 May 2003 09:19 AM
WOW this is some bullshit, if you've ever pac talk about when he records (interview at the gun range in compton) he explains why he sounds "hella sloppy" because he drinks and smokes. also, how fast he was rapping before he yelled westside because obviously viciously fast rapping takes alot of breath. one more thing, in hit em up he doesnt exactly "yell" westside as much as in mamas just a little girl. well, thats what i think
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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 25 May 2003 07:32 PM
he coulda just had the flu or cold when he said those parts are his nose coulda been stoped up...and u know when your nsoe is stoped up its kinda hard to breathe

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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 25 May 2003 07:36 PM
^^LOL ....that is laughable

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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 25 May 2003 07:40 PM
Ok... It seems rather far fetched, but I suppose Tupac might be crying when he raps the song, 'cos the song is rather emotional. (Far fetched, unlikely)

It could also be Tupac trying to keep up with the beat and make the words and sentences fit into rhythm of the song.

"Mama's just a little girl" is the song is in focus...so try and find some lyrical clues init that might point to the song be written after 1996.

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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 26 May 2003 07:37 AM
"Now, will she remain in the same spot?
The gunshots rang, they came from the 'caine spot
Now, look here, I see her clutching her son in her arms, she's hurt
Her heart bleeds, now she watched her seed die in the dirt
Fulfil prophecies, but who could stop the grief

I walk around trying to hold the world up on top of me
Probably be an innocent man, still I'm the victim of a curse
What could be worse? Nothing but pain since my birth
Only functions at the pen, cuz everybody's in
Paying back society, I'm guilty of a life of sin
I watch the drama occur, my eyes blur before I jetted
I wonder why we all have to die before we get it
Though we shed tears, so many peers I've done buried
Worried and scared, knowing I'm going to see the cemetery
Must be prepared in this cold world no one cares
Knowing it ain't fair, but we all bear and do our share
In this land of the underhanded schemes and plans
Vivid dreams of a nigga having G's in hand
Mama told me not to be a punk
Fuck what you talking about, coward, what you niggaz want? (hey)
There ain't a thing I wouldn't do for my Mama in this world
'Cause you know I ain't mad at cha, you're just a little girl"

could that be a clue? cuz he says she watched her seed die in the dirt. could he be talkin about himself?

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Re: Breathing Difference when Saying WESTSIDE [New Info]
Posted: 26 May 2003 02:55 PM
"Her heart bleeds, now she watched her seed die in the dirt "
Sounds like he means that is Afeni watching her son die.

"Fulfill prophecies" - Machiavelli made a prophecy that people will fake death to fool their enemies, did Tupac fulfil this prophecy?

"but who could stop the grief" - no one could stop the pain of not having Tupac around


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