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LogicalThinker is not online. Last active: 1/3/2003 9:38:10 AM LogicalThinker
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The Real Shock G Theory [In Violators Prespective]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 02:58 AM
The Shock G Theory in Violator's prespective...



I feel some people are mis-informed of my version of the Shock G Theory, how I percieved it, which I feel to be the most logical and apparent explanation, here I will try and explain as best I can the theory from MY prospective, take it how you want.


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The Shock G Theory (Violator's Perception):

For the records, there was no plan A, B, C etc like Shock said as in A: 'I want this put out on this date' and B: 'this put out on this date', some people think this is what Shock G meant. He didn't, by the different PLANS he just meant the different forms of clues in lyrics.

I think it was more like this:
Plan A: To make us think he didn't die.
Plan B: To make us think he killed Biggie and his enemies.
Plan C: To make us think he killed Biggie AFTER and IF Pac died himself.

And all of them worked.

Pac pre-recorded material (lyrics) during his final years, which could be later identified as 'clues', in attempt to confuse his fans and enemies into thinking he was alive, thus:

1.) Maintaining his position in the game for years to come.

2.) Maintaining discussion of him (i.e. this forum).

3.) Attracting and maintaining more fans.

4.) Maintaining his legacy.

5.) Leaving the question open: What If?

6.) Making him even more of a legend and genious

7.) Making him UNIQUE and the first rapper to EVER fool the world.
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To me this makes most sense. None of the points mentioned in this theory can be arued with at all, because ALL of them have already taken place and are already happening to this day.

And for those who will say 'why would Pac do that?': "Don't ask me why nigga, thank god.. ask me HOW"

We are dealing with a genious at work. Now I put it to ANYONE on this board to disprove MY version of the Shock G Theory. There have been attempts in other topics to difuse this theory but they only prove that Pac didn't plan the release dates of his future material.. Shock G's theory never said he did, so disprove the real one.



Source: Violator@musicfantalk


(Sorry that I have been posting things from other boards, I have just not had anytime to a write a theory, hopfully I can get a couple done this VACATION.)
Much love.
- Drew

2pac -- What Truly Happened?

Why'd have to go -- you know the homies miss your face -- but even though your gone we know your in a better place
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Re: The Real Shock G Theory [In Violators Prespective]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 03:19 AM
oke first don't think I whant to know it better I am only trying to know what realy happend whit Pac and hope he is alive..
But if this theory is true tha how could Pac know plan B and C>?

Plan B: To make us think he killed Biggie and his enemies.
Plan C: To make us think he killed Biggie AFTER and IF Pac died himself.

Pac couldent knew that Biggie was going to die 4 shure..
So I don't think he would let us think he killed Biggie..
But plan A can be real..

Smiley I only tryin to help you, you are tha best of tha forum LogicalThinker..

I taught you were a friend but now I know I got tha story bad you are a traitor so fuck you men.
With tha disses I get from all ya I am gonna be higher and be tha best, case I don’t give a fuck about you anymore die slow and diss me but you no its war..
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Re: The Real Shock G Theory [In Violators Prespective]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 03:29 AM

Excuse me but I have to ask this, they say it is not Afeni who is putting those hints in the CD's and all...Because everyone says IT IS SUGE...well if it is Suge...Then...
"Suge shot me" or him or can't stop me or whatever it says, It is suppose to say that suge shot Tupac... But why the hell would Suge Knight put that sample on there? Him?
But if Tupac is alive then he is fixing his own albums but why do like that to Suge?
I don't know what I am trying to say but I must go put on some All about u music Smiley
Or hey was kadafi saying that shit in bomb first? What??? he just ran in the studio while Suge was gone for a min and kad made the sample? damn...

Now he is dead?
Left Eye could kill herself to be with Tupac...aha...
She even had the secret here...yea should have told somebody Smiley

Na hell no, why would the man say that he will come back so damn clear in better days and in the song with LeftEye...???
I mean he says he will come back like jesus then that he will...
What will Afeni say if Pac don't come back... "- I told u he is dead" ????
No no no... Mother and son can do anything to not get killed from each other....
Tupac will do good for the world...he come back!


The theorys is good by the way Smiley

Found something interesting to complain about?
Well go ahead to tell everyone but please don't tell me
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Re: The Real Shock G Theory [In Violators Prespective]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 03:46 AM
Well, logically speaking plan B could of worked. Any one can be killed. The presidents of the United States are the most well protected people in America, and it has been proven by numerous assinations that even they could be killed. So of course a hit on Biggie and his enemied could be carried out.

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Re: The Real Shock G Theory [In Violators Prespective]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 04:05 AM
I DON'T WANT TO DISAGREE WITH YOU, BUT I DO WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT PAC COULD HAVE PLANNED THIS ,SO HE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE LIMELIGHT ANYMORE AND STILL MAKE RECORDS AND STILL MAKE MONEY. I AM A BIG FAN OF PAC'S AND I DONT WANT TO GO ALL OUT AND SAY HE'S DOING THIS AND THAT,THAT'S HE PLANNING TO DO THIS AND THAT,OR HE'S COMING BACK IN 2003 OR WHATEVER. ALL I KNOW IS THAT IF HE PLANNED IT HE DID IT FOR A REASON, AND HE LEFT ENOUGH CLUES FOR US TO FIGURE IT OUT....BUT ONLY HIS TRUE FANS WOULD FIGURE IT OUT IN DUE TIME. HE ALWAYS SAID HE WANTED OUT OF THE RAP GAME...AND HE ALWAYS SAID THIS LIFESTYLE NEVER GAVE HIM NOTHING.....HE WAS UNHAPPY......LIKE THE SONG "GHETTO STAR" HE SAYS"LABEL ME A SLICK(CESS), I MADE THE SWITCH, RETIRED FROM THE LIFE THAT NEVER GAVE ME SHIT, WITH MONEY THAT I COULDN'T WASTE, COUNTLESS CARS, AN ADDICT FOR A WIFE, MY LIFE AS A GHETTO STAR",....I REALLY BELIEVED THAT HE MEANT THAT. SO WHY WOULD HE COME BACK? TO GET HIS ENEMIES? FOR HIS FANS? TO GET IN POLITICS AND BECOME A LEADER AND MAKE A CHANGE.....NO! HE WAS VERY SMART AND HE KNEW HE COULD MAKE A CHANGE THROUGH HIS MUSIC....HE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT....AS A TRUE FAN....I'M JUST HAPPY THAT HE'S HAPPY...AND HE CAN GO ON WITH HIS LIFE...WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT NOTHING!!
T.I.P TUPAC SHAKUR
FROM ONE OF YOU BIGGEST
FANS......LATIN-THUG AKA
JSCARZ
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Re: The Real Shock G Theory [In Violators Prespective]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 04:17 AM
LATIN-THUG whe are only makin theorys case whe hope Pac is alive, and Pac didn't left tha theorys 4 notin..

I taught you were a friend but now I know I got tha story bad you are a traitor so fuck you men.
With tha disses I get from all ya I am gonna be higher and be tha best, case I don’t give a fuck about you anymore die slow and diss me but you no its war..
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Re: The Real Shock G Theory [In Violators Prespective]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 04:22 AM
back to tha theory..
uhmm oke but Pac couldend knew that Biggie was gettin killed 4 shure so I don't think Pac had tha plan B and C unless he was a good guesser :S

I taught you were a friend but now I know I got tha story bad you are a traitor so fuck you men.
With tha disses I get from all ya I am gonna be higher and be tha best, case I don’t give a fuck about you anymore die slow and diss me but you no its war..
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Re: The Real Shock G Theory [In Violators Prespective]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 04:54 AM
Agg-Thug. Suge would have put that in there to create further contreversy in the murder of tupac shakur. Basscily, another money making scheme.
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Re: The Real Shock G Theory [In Violators Prespective]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 04:56 AM
Nah, 2pac is .................well, Im starting to get suspecious.

8 albums since his death

COuntless songs

Numrous self references to his own death


IM confused

Weither your friend or foe
Just know
I got love to show

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Re: The Real Shock G Theory [In Violators Prespective]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 04:58 AM
but tha theory is going about what Pac did so thats why I sad that Pac couldnt knew abouth Biggie..

I taught you were a friend but now I know I got tha story bad you are a traitor so fuck you men.
With tha disses I get from all ya I am gonna be higher and be tha best, case I don’t give a fuck about you anymore die slow and diss me but you no its war..
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Re: The Real Shock G Theory [In Violators Prespective]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 05:08 AM
Agga, read what i said. Anyone can be killed in the snap of a finger. No matter who you are. If someone wants anybody dead they would kill them, or get someone to kill them. Somehow, someway it will get done.

*Only God Can Judge Me*
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Re: The Real Shock G Theory [In Violators Prespective]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 05:12 AM
ya I agree iced. Thats really true. That is also why it is so very possible that tupac is dead.
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Re: The Real Shock G Theory [In Violators Prespective]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 05:16 AM
yeah I know what you 2 mean you 2 are right but I can't explayn exacly what I mean..

I taught you were a friend but now I know I got tha story bad you are a traitor so fuck you men.
With tha disses I get from all ya I am gonna be higher and be tha best, case I don’t give a fuck about you anymore die slow and diss me but you no its war..
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Re: The Real Shock G Theory [In Violators Prespective]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 05:48 AM
A works but tha other 2 dont becuz he didnt know that biggie was gonna die and he didnt know when or how. in one of pacs songs (i dont remember which one) he says somethin about killin people from his black suburban which i how biggie got killed, how could pac have known that?

I aint a killa but dont push me, revenge is like tha sweetest joy next to gettin pussy - Hail Mary - 2Pac

This niggaz a bitch like his wife, Suge Knights a bitch and thats on my life - Pimp Slapp'd - Snoop Dogg

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Re: The Real Shock G Theory [In Violators Prespective]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 05:51 AM
Possible coincidence?
Can you send me the exact phrase, because I am having a brain freeze...

2pac -- What Truly Happened?

Why'd have to go -- you know the homies miss your face -- but even though your gone we know your in a better place
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Re: The Real Shock G Theory [In Violators Prespective]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 06:03 AM
ill try and find it

I aint a killa but dont push me, revenge is like tha sweetest joy next to gettin pussy - Hail Mary - 2Pac

This niggaz a bitch like his wife, Suge Knights a bitch and thats on my life - Pimp Slapp'd - Snoop Dogg

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Re: The Real Shock G Theory [In Violators Prespective]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 08:41 AM
tnx WestsideRydaz that was tha thing I was explaynin to Kable and Ices..
Pac couldnt knew plan B and C!!! Smiley Smiley Smiley

I taught you were a friend but now I know I got tha story bad you are a traitor so fuck you men.
With tha disses I get from all ya I am gonna be higher and be tha best, case I don’t give a fuck about you anymore die slow and diss me but you no its war..
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Re: The Real Shock G Theory [In Violators Prespective]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 01:50 PM
pac has always rapped about death and stuf alike. maybe suge realised he could use this to his advantage. so pac could have really being shot and killed,but suge used this chance 2 put a hit on biggie and pac would take the blame. i dont think pac could forsee plan B and C in his lyrics, maybe pac already wrote the lyrics and suge is working everything to coinside with them,meaning more money for him and confusion 4 every 1 else.

IF AT FIRST YOU DONT SUCCEED............

THEN SKYDIVING ISNT 4 YOU.
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Re: The Real Shock G Theory [In Violators Prespective]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 04:15 PM
the song ur talkin about is "fuckin wit the wrong nigga" and all he says is "the lil homies and my dogs in the black truck, buck buck was the sounds that they gats burst, no need for ambulance baby bring the black hearst"

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Re: The Real Shock G Theory [In Violators Prespective]
Posted: 19 Dec 2002 07:10 PM


Pac couldnt knew plan B and C!!! Smiley Smiley Smiley



I think you don't understand the theory. Certain songs WOULD ONLY BE RELEASED, if certain things happened. For instance if Biggie was still alive today, than some of the songs relating to his death would not have been released, if Biggie died in a place crash instead of a drive-by, certain songs would have not been released.

But since 'Pac never says Biggie's name when referring to these incidents, he could be talking about anyone, or about gang life in general.

Much Love.
- Drew

2pac -- What Truly Happened?

Why'd have to go -- you know the homies miss your face -- but even though your gone we know your in a better place
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